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Offline pat2012

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Re: avaya economic status ?
« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2017, 09:14:21 PM »
Our Avaya account rep. visited us on Thursday just when the announcement was made - it was a coincidence. Just before that our Manager got an email from Kevin Kennedy.

I'm glad they decided not to sell any of their products.  There were rumors that they would have sold Contact Centre.

We have been using Nortel/Avaya products (both voice and data) for over a decade.  We stuck by them when Nortel was bought by Avaya.  I don't see us abandoning Avaya.  They have a great heritage of technology innovation (SPBM for example).  Too bad they don't have the market share.

I'm sure their competitors will take advantage of this situation to "kick Avaya while it's down".

I hope they survive and come out of this process stronger.


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« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2017, 09:57:09 AM »
I remember reading and getting that pain in my chest that I had when Nortel filed for bankruptcy.

With that said, we are fully committed to the Avaya/Nortel hardware/software portfolio, including at a greenfield site for a data solution.

Even if Avaya ceased to exist where they could no longer provide maintenance, there is so much used hardware available from resellers and Ebay, that we would just replace failed hardware with cold spares. Some hardware like ERS 8400s would need to stay on 24x7 maintenance from somewhere. But even ERS 4800 and VSP 7000 series switches are becoming quite affordable in the used marketplace.

Overall, we have been very pleased with Nortel and Avaya. We just retired in December two ERS 8600 core routing switches that were in use for over fourteen years. I got a bit of a tear in my eye when decommissioning these switches - that is until we had to remove them from the rack (heavy!).

Offline TankII

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« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2017, 03:24:49 PM »
http://www.networkworld.com/article/3168707/leadership-management/avayas-chapter-11-filing-sends-waves-of-disruption.html

Interesting read - My Sr. Network Engineer saw this and I figured I could forward it on.

Dave R

Offline Charles

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Offline pat2012

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Re: avaya economic status ?
« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2017, 11:15:20 AM »
Well this is disturbing.

http://www.avaya.com/en/perspectives/spotlight/extreme-networks-to-buy-avayas-networking-business-for-100m-4405948/

Extreme does not have much of a presence in my country - if any.  So we would be extremely (pun intended) concerned about this.

I hope the technology survives.

All I knew of Extreme is that they bought Enterasys some years ago - so they already have a huge switching portfolio.

Oh well.  We will have to see how this plays out and if we'll have to start looking at other vendors.

 :'( :'(

Offline TankII

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« Reply #20 on: March 08, 2017, 10:25:25 PM »
Well, the Enterasys line is long in the tooth - probably retire it soon.  Other than being able to get 100% S-flow sampling, not much to differentiate it from Extreme's legacy portfolio.
Extreme just bought Zebra for the Motorola Wireless - their existing wireless is long in the tooth.
I would expect Avaya's SPB portfolio and automation will integrate nicely with the Enterasys security portfolio.
However, this is a bid under Chapter 11 rules.  Thus, they have first bid, and set the lowest price.  Let's see how things go and who ultimately wins.  I would anticipate the bidding to be significantly higher based on the division's earnings in the 2016 report.

TankII